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David Ashby - Moderator07/02/2012 09:14:30
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I see the new beta V.4 Pheonix is now available. This will be a free upgrade to V.3 users but has anyone had a play with the new version?
 
 
 

Edited By David Ashby - RCME Admin on 07/02/2012 09:16:07

Andy Green07/02/2012 10:30:12
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I've just fired up the sim, and checked for upgrades, but nothing available as yet.
 
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David Gilder07/02/2012 10:36:43
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Andy,
 
With it being a Beta version, you will prbably have to go to the website to download it!!
 
I'm gonna wait a while personally as it will prohibit online flying unless your flying with others using the same version!!
 
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Andy Green07/02/2012 10:51:08
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In that case I'll wait too.
 
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David Ashby - Moderator08/02/2012 10:58:10
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Quick summary of the new features/improvements....
 
• New InfinityScape sites:
• Fly forever on an infinite number of randomly generated 3D terrains that you create and control
• Boundary-less terrains let you range as far and wide as you want to

• New camera modes include Cockpit and Chase modes with lookaround functionality
• New resampled sound effects for model engines
• Official support for NVIDIA 3D Vision sterescopic and TrackIR head-tracking hardware
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator08/02/2012 11:55:50
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Wow! Sounds great! Cockpit view should be fun! I know its just a gimick for most of us - but hey, it a fun gimick! I wonder if I'll be able to see myself on the ground as I do low pass
 
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Phil 908/02/2012 12:18:58
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Posted by Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 08/02/2012 11:55:50:
Wow! Sounds great! Cockpit view should be fun! I know its just a gimick for most of us - but hey, it a fun gimick! I wonder if I'll be able to see myself on the ground as I do low pass
 
BEB

You can see the pilot character on FS One. But to me all the new features are just new gimicks and IMHO will not add much to the sim as a RC practice tool.

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator08/02/2012 13:39:23
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I agree Phil - but fun though.
 
One thing I would like to see in Phoenix is more focus on training and practice aids - for example games that required you to hone a particular skill, or exercises beginners could go though to encourage them - say point scores for landings based on a combination of vertical and horizontal velocity, model attitude (ie how level) plus strip position on touch down etc. The scope is endless really. As it is we've got "balloon bursting"
 
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Braddock, VC08/02/2012 14:00:54
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it would be good if they could operate the bmfa proficiency routines in the system with an indication of the ability of the user, or is that asking too much?

Edited By John Gibbs on 08/02/2012 14:01:38

Tom T08/02/2012 20:52:21
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Hi all,
 
I have now downloaded but I now regret it as getting on multiplayer is virtually impossible, does anyone know how i can delete version 4 again? Will i need to uninstall the whole of phoenix and re install, sorry for the strange question
 
Cheers
Tom
John Privett08/02/2012 21:01:20
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Don't know the answer Tom, but it's worth emailing the Phoenix support guys. They responded very quickly (even though it was about midnight) when I emailed about a problem with an earlier beta test version.
 
Tom T08/02/2012 21:11:30
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Ok i will do that, thank you very much John :D
Rusty C08/02/2012 21:11:35
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Beb
 
Am with you all the way, I think more training aids would be well received. Possibly a mock solo test with an instructor?
 
All in all though I am pleased with phoenix, Its a great tool
 
Rusty
Pete B - Moderator08/02/2012 21:27:51
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I downloaded it and made the mistake of not creating a copy of V3s first......
 
V4 will not load as it says my graphics card should have the latest drivers. Trying both Intel and HP Compaq, neither have a later driver for the chipset. I emailed Phoenix and they replied quickly, asking for a copy of the diagnostic file.
 
Unfortunately, I'd already tried to revert to V3 and mashed everything up, so it seems I have no choice but to clean the system and do a re-install. A System Restore hasn't been able to recover the version. I have saved a copy of the original files, so hopefully once I'm back to V3 I can put some of the variations I'd made back on.
 
Moral: before trying it out, copy everything to a separate folder!
 
Pete
avtur09/02/2012 03:07:08
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I'm looking at getting a Sim and on the basis of my own research had homed in on Phoenix v3. I've been on the Phoenix website and downloaded the demo which (after some graphics driver updates which took place automatically) works well on my laptop. Am I correct in thinking that running the demo not only demonstrates the program but also serves to test/prove that the computer has the necessary spec to run the program. I presume that running the program is no more demanding than running the demo.

I just noticed on their website that v4 (beta) is available for download, on the basis of the comments I'm reading here I don't think that should put me off buying v3 in the near future and upgrading as and when v4 becomes available. If I understand the website correctly once you have bought a version of the product then upgrades are free.

Since I have no full size radio (or models come to mention it!) then there is the question of choice of transmitter to go for. I see that there is a boxed version which includes a Spectrum DX5e but some shops are offering other trannys as an additional cost option. I suspect that I know the answer to the next question but I'll ask anyway. If I achieve any degree of success and go on to buy a couple of models then I suspect it makes sense to go the extra ££'s and get a DX6i with the Sim it being more adaptable in future.

I'll only be starting with powered glider type model to begin with (while I get my hand back in) but trying to be optimistic about what I might achieve then the DX6i will probably last a bit longer. When I say getting my hand back in I flew for many years but there has been a significant break, so I'm adopting a cautious approach to my return!

Actually I have flown a Micro Stik as a start towards getting the thumbs working again, but I think the Sim might be a good help through these winter months ..
Rusty C09/02/2012 17:36:29
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Is this v4 Beta worth downloading, or is it just goin to be a load of grief.
It looks good fun but I am not in the mood for PC issues tonight!
 
Rusty
Pete B - Moderator09/02/2012 17:59:18
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I've had to do a complete re-install with lots of updates downloaded to get me back to V3s. Phoenix support responded quickly to my original request but I sent them the diagnostic file as requested yesterday and have had no response yet.
 
If you've got a relatively powerful graphics card I'm sure it will be OK - I just have the OE bits.
 
I'm not sure the additional functions are completely necessary - useful for FPV, perhaps - but if it's there, I've got to try it, haven't I?
 
Pete
Rusty C09/02/2012 18:07:44
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Pete
 
My Computer has Intel gmc hd graphics on board, I think its fairly pokey in the graphics front, well its plays tv and all sorts....... but am no pc wizz
 
I know what you mean though why should there be something out there that i am not getting. But your right i dont think the updates are much use really.
 
Cheers
 
Rusty
Pete B - Moderator16/02/2012 22:58:30
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I've had a reply to my graphics problem which was fixed with the release of V4.d, which I've now loaded. Far better graphics and sounds but for some reason, my 'Cockpit' and 'Chase' options in the Camera menu are greyed out. I'm wondering if it only allows this option if the graphics card is sufficient. Anyone else finding this?

Pete

Dean17/02/2012 07:21:25
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Hi Pete,

When I first tried the new V.4 I found the chase and cockpit views greyed out to, I have finally worked out how to use them.

If you go to flying site and click change you will see the list is completely different now, to get the chase and cockpit view you have to chose one of the new 3D infinityscape flying sites then these views are selectable.

Although it is a pain to go online with V.4 I am really impressed so far with the changes, really impressed with the fact its free to and i don't have to go out and buy the latest version or pay to get the updates, it is not very often we get free things nowadays.

Dean

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