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Chris Bott - Moderator07/03/2012 13:29:49
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A brand new project has been launched to get a WW2 Mosquito restored and back into the air.

Very early days it seems as they don't seem to have even found one to restore yet, but the idea seems to be to raise funds from the public (us) and eventually donate the aircraft to the BBMF.

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Steve Hargreaves - Moderator07/03/2012 14:43:03
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Worth it for the sound alone.....thumbs up

Alan Cantwell07/03/2012 17:41:19
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interesting, but what are they using for an airframe?

Chris Bott - Moderator07/03/2012 17:53:10
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If you look at the press release, on the website somewhere, I think it said part of the quest is to find an airframe. So they haven't got far at all yet!

Steve Hargreaves - Moderator07/03/2012 17:54:59
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Yeah I guess finding an airframe might be the biggest challenge. There are probably a few non flying airframes in Museums so I guess they will start there.....

Andy Green07/03/2012 18:16:00
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Whilst I applaude the sentiment, this is going to cost millions, so is this going to take money from the Vulcan, or are people willing to stump up for both.

Sorry for sounding mardy, a bit miffed at the moment.

Andy

Alan Cantwell07/03/2012 18:36:16
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just look at the price of the comet rebuild at shuttleworth, i feel its a non starter, its akso a high risk airframe, with a structure that just cannot even be hangared in a standard hangar, it needs climate control,

we all have aeroplanes that are glued together, would you trust your glue, which is probably superior to 1940s glue, after all these years? a full skins off restore would cost just too much, nice idea, but i feel you would have more chance keeping the vulcan money pit in the air another 12 months

Chris Bott - Moderator07/03/2012 18:48:45
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I was just waiting to see if there was any reaction, either way.

I agree, there is only so much money to go round. It will be interesting to see how they get on.

Keiran Arnold07/03/2012 18:55:41
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Glyn Powell in NZ has produced new Fuzelages for Mossies one being used by AVspecs for FB26 KA114 which is due to fly sometime in the next 12 months.

I'd rather see a Mossie fly rather than pour more money into a Vulcan project that afford to pay the Director of the trust 70k a year

Colin Carpenter09/08/2017 14:33:11
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Just seen on news that 20000 Mossies drawings been discovered at Broughton ! Excellent news for future new Mossies ! SWMBO used to work for Arkana Furniture Bath . Used to be Bath Cabinet Makers. Just before she started in the 80's they skipped all the paperwork they had relating to the Mossie bits they made in the war ! Shame !!!! Doubt I can live long enough to see a new one fly in the UK ! Colin

KiwiKid09/08/2017 15:35:56
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Five years on now - did anything ever come of the Mosquito project?

The Military Aviation Museum's Mossie (built by Avspecs in NZ) and mentioned above by Keiran cost over four million USDs and took 8 years to build. I was fortunate to see it at it's first public performance and it is an experience I will never forget. Lots of pics on the WWW.

Martin Harris09/08/2017 21:27:45
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I'd understood that it was still going strong - this seems to support this impression...

Cuban809/08/2017 21:49:26
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I had a lengthy conversation with them when they had a stand at Duxford a couple of years ago - 10/10 for enthusiasm I found. Until the project moves on a bit, at least until the location of a permanent base for the machine in the UK is announced, I'll just watch with interest .

PatMc09/08/2017 22:32:04
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A bit more detail on the drawings archive mentioned in Martin's link.

Alex Ferguson 210/08/2017 00:09:08
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From PatMc's link -

"The world's last flying example of a Mosquito was owned by British Aerospace and kept at Broughton."

"The aircraft was destroyed in a crash at an air show near Manchester in July 1996, killing the pilot and an engineer."

So those Mosquitoes flying in USA etc. don't exist?

It was suggested a while back in this thread, simply place an order for one in New Zealand where they are still being produced.

KiwiKid10/08/2017 04:11:57
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Good idea! Avspecs are kinda getting the hang of it now laugh

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Roger Mason 110/08/2017 05:15:01
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Avspecs have produced two fully airworhy Mosquitoes which have been delivered to collections in the U.S. Rumours exist of more orders.
Videos exist on YouTube.
Have seen both of them flying and managed to get into the cockpit of the first one during construction. One of our club members works for Avspecs and club members have been invited a number of times during the restoration.
KiwiKid10/08/2017 06:41:08
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Awesome stuff. Just wondering, does anyone know the background of where the Merlin engines come from these days? Presumably there is a limited supply.

Chris Walby10/08/2017 09:18:49
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Hi,

Having been on The Peoples Mosquito (TPM) stand recently I might be able to assist!

TPM did consider purchasing an existing aircraft or possibly the fuselage that's in NZ, however there are complications (more of that later). They are using the provenance of RL249 (see TPM web site for more info)

Okay rewind a bit (and this is my understanding) If you want to fly an aircraft in the UK & EU you have to satisfy the CAA that it is air worthy, that means it has to be build to documented specifications and drawings, the existing one are not so significant work and cost, if they were ever to accept it.

The TPM have already approached and agreed with the CAA that (with the aid of the 22,00 drawings) a Mosquito can be built and that they will (if all conditions met) issue an airworthy certificate for approx. 40 years (as its a new aircraft). The CAA have agreed that it can be built and inspected in NZ and to the predetermined requirements specified in the UK.

Engines will be Merlin Packard units with fuel injection (CAA requirement) to avoid any engine issues which have caused previous accidents, these are readily available, three will be purchased and rotated/ one kept as a spare. The lack of one of the superchargers will not be an issue as there is no interest in trying for altitude performance and are known to be easily serviceable.

Wing ribs have been purchased and are in storage and now the focus is getting the Fuselage started. The speed of build is only governed by the ability to raise funds.

Lastly, there is a suggestion that following a number of serious issues/accidents with aircraft that have come over from the US regarding airworthiness the CAA will enforce their requirements in a more stringent manner (yes its nice to see them, but we do ourselves no favours when the incident appears as front page news).

PS - Visit the web site and join/donate if you can

Martian10/08/2017 10:47:15
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