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Daithi O Buitigh22/08/2012 12:28:50
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I'm just curious if this will work (or if anyone has tried it).

SWMBO handed me a 6 pack of C&C Club Orange (duly accepted and consumed - she won't buy me beer ) Anyway, I noticed after emptying them that the cans seem to be a very light aluminium (unlike most other cans), easily bent and light weight and I just wondered if anyone has tried this on a model yet

bouncebounce crunch22/08/2012 12:39:58
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g'day Daithi I have seen aluminium cans used to add scale details like access hatches, fuel caps,window fairings to name a few but i haven't used them before as I drink my beer from bottles.

bbc.

Fun Flyer22/08/2012 13:59:36
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I used beer cans successfully years ago for cowlings etc. Club Orange cans and the like end up a bit small when you take off the top and bottom. I scraped, stripped the paint from the outside and ended up with a nice clean piece if thin plate. However I tried it again recently and found that 1) for some reason the plate now creases very easily and 2) its almost impossible to remove the paint.

Garbo22/08/2012 21:28:21
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Whats Club Orange?

Terence Lynock22/08/2012 21:33:50
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Try cellulose thinners to remove the paint, clean it off before you open the can,its much easier.

Fun Flyer23/08/2012 14:35:27
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I've tried cellulose thinners too without success. The cans seen to be printed rather than painted.

Engine Doctor02/09/2012 10:20:12
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Why not just leave the printing and glue that side to the model ? Also try annealing the ali before fitting to model as it will conform to the model shape much better .

Willy Hardy04/09/2012 13:55:54
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Ali.cans can be annealed easily by rubbing hard soap on one side and heating the other side with flame(ie.over the gas hob on the cooker) when the soap turns a dark colour quench the ali.in water and you will find that you can work the material easily

robert chamberlain19/07/2019 07:01:28
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OK , just what is LITHO Plate anyway? I imagine thin , easy to form sheet metal? Balsa I figured out years ago and I even know what glue is but,---litho?

Ray Wood 419/07/2019 07:12:55
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Lithographic. Printing process used good size thin aluminium sheets, this style of printing may have been superseded these day, I have a stack of it from the 80's 😀

Regards Ray

Foxfan19/07/2019 09:58:03
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Litho plate is rather crispy as it comes and would need annealing to conform to fancy shapes. I have a roll of malleable aluminium which is wonderfully easy to work.

Failing that, the small ally sheets that come from the K&S Metal Centre rack in almost all model and even toy shops has a very malleable ally grade. I have hammered that into scoops, bulges, vents, brackets, etc, right down to 1/32nd scale slot racing bodies (Morgan 3 wheeler and Bloody Mary hilclimber) I carve a Ureol or pearwood pattern and hammer the ally over with a Lignum Vitae block so as not to mark the surface.

Martin

Peter Miller19/07/2019 11:08:42
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You can buy lithoplate on Ebay.

I have used the bottom of drinks cans to make hub covers for model wheels such as Piper Cubs etc.

Jon - Laser Engines19/07/2019 11:12:01
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I have been tempted to try using standard aluminium foil. probably the tough stuff you get for christmas turkeys etc.

I have also used that self adhesive aluminium tape with some success.

Foxfan19/07/2019 11:22:09
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That's fine for covering stuff, Jon, but not up to making self supporting items. Sellotape aluminium tape is wonderful for making a chrome look. I'm foiling a 1.48th scale Lightning, panel by panel with Kit-Kat foil, turkey foil and Sellotape aluminium. Turn the sheets from time to time, they have a grain which shows when burnished. Also boil foil in vinegarry water with a copper coin in to get jet pipe colour.

Martin

Martian19/07/2019 11:26:03
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As far as I know all Ali drinks cans have a micro layer of plastic to prevent leaching and corrosion

Wilco Wingco19/07/2019 12:10:27
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I got a couple of sheets from my local print shop. He was glad to get rid of it. Just ask you never know.

Percy Verance19/07/2019 13:29:02
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Why not try Mick Reeves Metalcoat? Very similar to lithoplate and has an adhesive surface on one side.......

Foxfan19/07/2019 14:38:22
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Haven't heard of that, Percy. Interesting.

Martin

Engine Doctor19/07/2019 14:51:57
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If you have trouble finding Litho plate you could try the heavier gauge ali baking trays . Once annealed they can be easily shaped .

Percy Verance19/07/2019 14:56:14
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Foxfan

Go to mickreevesmodels.co.uk I haven't been on the site for a little while, but it's probably under the ACCESSORIES tag......

There are photos of several models covered in it so you can get an idea what it looks like. He's been selling it for many years.....

Edited By Percy Verance on 19/07/2019 14:57:18

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