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Mark a21/04/2013 16:21:50
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Hi all. Bought some 5% liquid gold fuel from Weston uk last week a first class service and only £50 for four gallons.

Edited By Mark a on 21/04/2013 16:24:51

Andy Green21/04/2013 19:48:58
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UK Gallons or US, I think you get over a pint more in a UK gallon.

Andy

Greybeard22/04/2013 08:17:45
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Andy, why would a UK company be selling us fuel in US gallons?

Andy Green22/04/2013 10:34:18
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So they can call it a Gallon, its up to the buyer to ask which one.

Optifuel sell in 5L bottles and Model Technics sell 4.5L (UK gallon), but Weston & Souther Modelcraft just say gallon.

Maybe I'm just being synical.

Andy

Greybeard22/04/2013 12:06:54
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I think that you may be Andy.

In fact it is illegal to sell in US gallons in Europe where liquids such as our fuel must be sold in metric measures but may have a supplementary description such as the imperial gallon. I imagine most modellers are able to equate one to the other.

Simon Chambers22/04/2013 12:19:54
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Ask Weston UK how much oil they put in their fuel. You'll find that they will refuse to tell you. With this attitude, I refuse to buy their fuel!

Having a low oil content is possibly how they can sell their fuel for reasonable prices, as oil is more expensive than the methanol.

Si.

Solly22/04/2013 13:37:58
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Mark,- take no notice of the doom-merchants. I've used Weston's fuel for years and all my engines are in A1 condition. And most of them run in tightly cowled scale aircraft.

Greybeard22/04/2013 13:39:28
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You are correct on that point which is why I also have never brought any fuel from them, but their advert for their new Viper fuel states that has 18.5% synthetic oil so maybe they are changing their attitude.

Mark a22/04/2013 18:51:28
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Posted by Solly on 22/04/2013 13:37:58:

Mark,- take no notice of the doom-merchants. I've used Weston's fuel for years and all my engines are in A1 condition. And most of them run in tightly cowled scale aircraft.

Other club members use Westons fuel and they recommended them to me. I have been using Model Technics formula irvine 5% but at over £20 a gallon it is getting a bit pricey. I will let you know how it goes.

Masher24/04/2013 13:20:54
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Just got 4 gallons from Westons, delivered to my door in under 25 hours from placing order!

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Adrian Smith 124/04/2013 19:39:31
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For the record Optifuel are more than happy to send fuel by courier. They might not be the cheapest in the world, but I find them very reliable in absence of a LMS and all my aircraft perform as I wish on Optifuel 12pc..

Lee Smalley24/04/2013 23:44:10
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we have been brought up with the notion that we need nearly 20% oil in our engines, in hte old days this may have been true, new oils have proven this is not always the case, i suspect weston do not state it as the real value which is quite low would scare many off i have been using their liquid gold for more years than i can rememer all my engine are perfect, much cheaper than optifuel and just as good IMO, thats all i need to know!

Turbycat24/04/2013 23:59:46
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I've been using Weston for about 3 years now. I've used a variety of their fuels over this time. I now use the Liquid Gold 12.5% nitro mix from them and all my engines love it. It seems to just run nicely in anything, big 2 strokes and small 4 strokes.

Andy

Greybeard25/04/2013 08:02:17
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So who should we trust, our engine manufacturer who advises a certain type and ratio of oil or a supplier of cheap fuel who will not tell us what ratio of oil they contain?

Brian Hammond25/04/2013 08:38:12
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I have used Weston fuels for some years and have had no trouble at all and the West engines are superb in all respects!

Frank Skilbeck25/04/2013 08:59:22
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Posted by Greybeard on 25/04/2013 08:02:17:

So who should we trust, our engine manufacturer who advises a certain type and ratio of oil or a supplier of cheap fuel who will not tell us what ratio of oil they contain?

But as there is no standard for glow fuel (like for your cars petrol or diesel) then the engine manufacturer will err on the catious side and cover themselves from Joe Bloggs making his own fuel to bought fuel from any supplier. Has the engine manufacturer tested their engines on all fuels available in all markets, I suspect not, so they just assume that the modeller is using the cheapest worst quality oil and make a recommendation based on that.

I've not used Weston fuel but as they also make high performance engines, I suspect they have already tested their fuel.

Lee Smalley25/04/2013 14:43:24
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greybeard you are stating this like weston are a dodgy back door company that sells cheap rubbish and will not tell you whats in it, liquid gold has been on sale for longer than i can remember, if it was as you insinuate then it would no longer be available, you keep buying overpriced fuel mate if it placates you, i and thousands of others will continue to use the great fuel weston sell as we have done for 10 years.

ps i have used the same fuel in my ST G61 ring engine for 10 years now and its still mint piston and liner

Simon Chambers25/04/2013 15:06:34
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Posted by Lee Smalley on 25/04/2013 14:43:24:

greybeard you are stating this like weston are a dodgy back door company that sells cheap rubbish and will not tell you whats in it,

Well apart from the Viper fuel, what is it in it?

If it had a low oil content it wouldn't bother me - but I'd like to know that. I agree with you on that most modern engines will run happily with far less oil, but I feel its only reasonable to know the content. It would like buying some sausages and finding out it had a percentage of horse meat in it...

Si.

Greybeard25/04/2013 16:52:38
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Posted by Lee Smalley on 25/04/2013 14:43:24:

greybeard you are stating this like weston are a dodgy back door company that sells cheap rubbish and will not tell you whats in it, liquid gold has been on sale for longer than i can remember, if it was as you insinuate then it would no longer be available, you keep buying overpriced fuel mate if it placates you, i and thousands of others will continue to use the great fuel weston sell as we have done for 10 years.

ps i have used the same fuel in my ST G61 ring engine for 10 years now and its still mint piston and liner

Not so. I have used the term “cheap fuel” because it is apparently as stated in the O.P., at least relative to most others. I’m pleased to read that you and others here are satisfied with it and will keep using it. However I still think that Weston should be prepared to state the contents, when they do I shall consider using it. Until then I shall be happy to continue to pay a premium for a product from a company that is prepared to tell me what I am buying.

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