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In your experience what's the most common cause of a crash?

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Q: In your experience, what's the most common cause of a crash?

Pilot err  
88%

 
 

Weather  
1%

 
 

Structural  
1%

 
 

Eng fail  
2%

 
 

CG probs  
1%

 
 

Batt fail  
2%

 
 

Assem/wire  
1%

 
 

Other  
3%

 
 

(754 votes)


Steve Hargreaves - Moderator10/05/2013 09:21:16
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I've had the odd structural failure & one or two "unexplained" crashes where I really can't attribute a cause (don't you just hate those) but overwhelmingly it has to be pilot error....sad

Martin Harris10/05/2013 09:21:27
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Posted by cymaz on 10/05/2013 08:53:34:

Who once said," Take off's are optional - landings are mandatory".

I did - last night! cheeky

But I did notice this morning that the poll states "Pilot error (flying skills)" - has this been added since most of us voted or have some of us missed it? That would certainly make the poll more meaningful as Pilot Error did seem to cover almost all eventualities...perhaps we could reset the poll and vote again if that's the case David?

Edited By Martin Harris on 10/05/2013 09:24:40

cymaz10/05/2013 09:26:07
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Sorry Martin I missed that line at the end, must get the eye testedsmile d

avtur10/05/2013 09:32:45
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Posted by Martin Harris on 10/05/2013 09:21:27:

....... But I did notice this morning that the poll states "Pilot error (flying skills)" - has this been added since most of us voted or have some of us missed it? .........

Something odd going on here, the first line of the poll as I view it currently reads "Pilot err" and there is no mention on any of the lines about 'flying skills' ...

Thats viewing the poll this minute (09.32) with 148 entries submitted ...

Martin Harris10/05/2013 09:33:45
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Just shows that great minds think alike Cymaz!!! (where's the tin hat smiley?)

Edited By Martin Harris on 10/05/2013 09:35:30

Martin Harris10/05/2013 09:34:58
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Avtur - you can see it if you log out and view the thread...

cymaz10/05/2013 09:37:00
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The %'s only add up to 99.......who stole the other 1%??

Martian10/05/2013 09:45:01
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when the ground unexpectantly rises up to meet the aircraft in a downward motion the result is a crash

avtur10/05/2013 09:50:54
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Posted by Martin Harris on 10/05/2013 09:34:58:

Avtur - you can see it if you log out and view the thread...

I wondered if it was an updating issue so I logged out and in again before making the previous post.

I've logged out and back in before making this post and I still don't see the update ... that's why I thought is was strange.

chris basson10/05/2013 09:59:47
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Plus 1 for pilot error!

Dumb Thumbs, Ground to high etc.

Honest bunch so far aren't we!
avtur10/05/2013 10:06:23
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Posted by Martin Harris on 10/05/2013 09:34:58:

Avtur - you can see it if you log out and view the thread...

OK I've got it now, I have now viewed the thread in 'logged out status' (not logged back in) and see the (flying skills) addition.

The wording in the headings of the 'poll questions' intput has been modified; however the wording in the headings of 'poll results' output does not match the headings on the input ... it looks abbreviated as though the output tool has a text length limitation

 

 

 

Edited By avtur on 10/05/2013 10:07:22

Miketgd10/05/2013 10:16:04
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Brain freeze. Disconnection between eyes and thumbs!

Martin Harris10/05/2013 10:21:01
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Posted by chris basson on 10/05/2013 09:59:47:
Plus 1 for pilot error!

Dumb Thumbs, Ground to high etc.

Honest bunch so far aren't we!

One of the best lessons you can learn in aviation is to admit your errors (to yourself at least) and it's extremely useful to share those admissions with as many people as possible.

Having said that, the majority of my crashes have been due to interference.

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with the sticks!

Vecchio Austriaco10/05/2013 10:38:24
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I like it that the people in this forum are quite honest . Of course I put in pilot error, as if I look at the number of crashes I had I can find may be 3 or 4 where I find other reasons for an excuse.

The big majority is home made (or rather pilot made), with several stalls, several times hitting trees, starting my EDF without helper and so on...

VA, crash department

John Muir10/05/2013 10:44:09
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I think after this poll has established that pilot error is the main cause of crashes (which it is IMHO) we should have another poll to establish which type of pilot error is most common: loss of orientation, not being on the ball, trying something new, exceeding our own abilities, pre flight or maintenence error all have been mentioned and there must be others. My money is on loss of orientation as the most common, but, for i.c. pilots, not being able to deal with a deadstick, or even not being able to set up an engine properly, must be high on the list as well.

My last major crash was down to me not plugging a servo lead in properly and trying to take off without aileron control. Pilot error, but pre-flight. More recently I lightly stuffed my old Formosa through loss of orientation during some over enthusiastic low level aerobatics and I damaged my Glen's Extra through leaving a spin recovery a bit too low and having the engine splutter instead of roar at just the wrong moment. Both my fault, although I never found out exactly what made the engine cough just then. Once all the mud was cleaned out it's been perfect since.

John.

Mark Agate10/05/2013 10:46:22
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High on the list for "other" causes should be bad hand launches.

The worst (most expensive) crash I had was due to a club official deploying the peg system while I was flying, without giving me the peg for my frequency. I bought a 2.4GHz set after that.

Bob Cotsford10/05/2013 10:53:44
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Posted by John Muir on 10/05/2013 10:44:09:

... but, for i.c. pilots, not being able to deal with a deadstick, or even not being able to set up an engine properly, must be high on the list as well....

leccies suffer power failure too if you don't mind! cheeky

The Wright Stuff10/05/2013 11:15:22
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I usually blame Microsoft! wink

IanN10/05/2013 11:19:26
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I put "other"

Loking back, most of mine have been due to poor preparation. Usually, rushing to get a flight in either at the start or end of the day or trying to maximise flights during a brief session meant I took off without really thinking about what I was going to do, ended up either somewhere unexpected or in an unfamilar attitude, and things went downhill from there. In other words, lack of thought and no decent flight plan

Spice Cat10/05/2013 11:57:11
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Poor pre flight checks resulting in mechanical failure. Being lazy and too much in a rush in other words.

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