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John F15/09/2013 08:23:53
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I went to the Steam and Country Fair at Shuttleworth Old Warden yesterday.

As part of the ticket price you could also get into the aircraft museum. Bargain. After looking at all of the wonderful aircraft in the museum I was wondering what aircraft do you know of is rarely modelled which you'd like to see fly?

Edited By Sarge on 15/09/2013 08:24:30

Phil 915/09/2013 08:31:53
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yak 18 or 50 I cant see why it is not modelled more. It has simple lines very aerobatic and lots of scale colour schemes to choose from

Foxfan15/09/2013 09:14:12
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That's the kind of question that, when asked on the static model forums, tends to run for 20 pages or more without conclusion!.

Any British civil aircraft short of airliners would be my choice. But then I build, I don't buy, so I guess that doesn't count as you are probably asking about kit production.

Martin

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John F15/09/2013 10:02:43
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Not at all Foxfan, I would rather build from plan than kit. It'll keep me out if trouble for longer.

I liked Old Warden a lot and have a hankering to do a Lysander at some point.
Richard scarborough15/09/2013 10:20:36
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I have one of these on the building board at the moment, it looks like an agricultural implement because it is!p1010003.jpg

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TheFlyingCrust15/09/2013 10:46:34
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Richard, that's a Transavia PL12 Airtruc as seen in Mad Max III.

Sarge, How about one of these?

Stipa Caproni Flying Barrel

Its a Stipa Caproni. The example shown is 3/4 scale I think. I don't know if its been modelled. There's lots of info out there and a few YouTube clips.

Ian

jeff2wings15/09/2013 11:48:23
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All the aircraft so far have been modelled (yes,even the Caproni surprise  but I have never seen this one done

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one for Mr Hooper I think !devil

Martin Whybrow15/09/2013 12:39:00
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Posted by Percy Verance on 15/09/2013 09:58:06:

I'd like to see another model of this aircraft **LINK**

I say another, as I did see a fellow Club member build one some 25 odd years ago. From memory it was around 50 to 60 inch wingspan, and had an OS .35 up front. It did fly, but the handling characteristics were a bit peculiar.

There is a kit available in the US for this aircraft, and the producer claims to have ironed out all the funnies. It's a strange shape though, and probably evolved out of the search for that elusive wonder weapon.

Sarge

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Ken Sheppard from that other magazine has built a large scale model of the BV141; it's in the >20Kg class and has recently passed its exemption; it will almost certainly be flying at the North London MFC large model event in October.

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I built and flew a Blohm & Voss BV141B about 15 years ago from a Nick Ziroli plan. It was 54" wingspan and was alright to fly but a bit sensitive on the elevator.

It was pictured in RCM&E magazine and I sold it about 3 years ago after looking at it and deciding that it would be difficult to convert to electric as I had converted completely from I.C.

I have been trying to sell replica workshop manuals for the Luftwaffe BV141B on ebay if anyone is interested.

PatMc15/09/2013 13:14:14
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The BV141 was a free plan in one of the mags some time back, IIRC it was in RCM&E.

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This was my BV 141B.

 

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John F15/09/2013 18:14:34
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I don't know which Lysander plan yet Percy. The Tony Nijhuis plan is the most obvious one to choose.
Tim Hooper15/09/2013 21:02:59
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Sarge,

I'ma big fan and frequent visitor to Old Warden. So far I've scratchbuilt models of three of the aircraft there.

This one is somewhere near the top of my list......

Pretty, huh?

tim

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Colin Leighfield15/09/2013 22:40:26
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I've always thought what a nice looking plane the Parnall Elf is. Another one that doesn't get modelled very often that has that Warren Truss strut arrangement is the Fiat CR42. Too many subjects and I ain't Chris Golds!

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator15/09/2013 23:43:32
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Well, if you fancy a challenge - you could always try one of these,..

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It was known as the Christmas Bullet - named after its designer Dr William Christmas. I think it would be fair to say that Dr Christmas was a man that might be described as somewhat "economical with the truth"! He cliamed to be a sucessful aircraft designer with several previous sucessful designs behind him - but no evidence was ever found of these.

The bullet was an "innovation" as it had no struts - which Dr Christmas held only generated unnecessary drag! It also had no ailerons - instead depending on wing-warping for control. He held that it was necessary for an aircraft's wings to be flexible - another reason for not having struts!

Somehow he managed to get some considerable private financial backing as well as support from the US government! Proof prositive I would say that there really is one born every minute. Sadly he also got a test pilot - needless to say the Bullet's wings collasped on its maiden flight, killing the poor pilot.

Somehow Christmas continued on to build another Bullet - which makes me personally suspect that he wasn't so much "bad" as "mad"! Part of his fund raising effort for this second prototype revolving around a claim that the first reached a speed of 197mph before its demise. That might be the case - vertically downwards. The second Bullet went the way of the first - again sadly killing its pilot.

So far its; Christmas two, Aviation nil!

Christmas went on campaigning for his "innovative design" but thankfully built no more aeroplanes. With modern materials of course a Bullet could be made that the wings would stay on! It would be interesting to see if it would then fly?

BEB

Colin Leighfield16/09/2013 00:16:31
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Fancy you digging that one up BEB. I read about it years ago, probably in RAF Flying Review? Now you've done that, someone is likely to see it as a challenge and make it work! If anyone's interested in twisty bendy wings that don't break, what about a Vickers Windsor ? I don't think I've ever seen a model of one, but I bet it would fly well and certainly look different. The undercarriage would be interesting. Eric Brown said that it flew along serenely with the wings flapping up and down about 10 feet! Vickers planned at one time to fit it with Rolls Royce Clyde turbo-props. Interesting or what!

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