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Anglia TV makes yet another mistake

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Peter Miller30/09/2013 18:57:29
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Anglia TV News has just featured a Great Buckenham Tribute to Ken Wallis.

Twice they said that Ken Wallis invented the autogyo.

No he did not! Juan Cierva, a Spaniard invented the autgyro.

But since when did facts matter to a good story.

John Privett30/09/2013 19:10:22
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Doesn't surprise me in the least Peter...

"The media" and anything "technical" are usually not a good combination. Let's face it, most newspaper accounts of an aircraft crash feature the "engine stalling" and the pilot(s) "heroically wrestling with the controls to crash in a field rather than on top of the primary school" (which was about 5 miles away anyway.)

In fact it's not just anything technical. On the rare occasion I've seen a story that I have first-hand knowledge of, the match between the report and truth is about 50:50. But hey, the facts don't always sell newspapers, do they?

kc30/09/2013 19:14:59
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How can we trust anything else they publish on the news if they get this fact wrong that any knowledgeable person knows?
One can only assume that local news is run by youths who know very little and cannot even bother to read up the facts.

Edited By kc on 30/09/2013 19:16:20

Kevin Fairgrieve30/09/2013 19:16:52
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Posted by Peter Miller on 30/09/2013 18:57:29:

Anglia TV News has just featured a Great Buckenham Tribute to Ken Wallis.

Twice they said that Ken Wallis invented the autogyo.

No he did not! Juan Cierva, a Spaniard invented the autgyro.

But since when did facts matter to a good story.

OR

"When will Peter Miller get his facts right???????"laugh

The tribute was at "Old Buckenham" not Great Buckenham.

None the less a good story.

Kev

PS. No mallice intended.

Concorde Speedbird30/09/2013 19:24:30
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I went to the event, it was great. I can post some pictures if anyone wants to see them.

CS

kc30/09/2013 19:28:37
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The error about the inventor is utterly inescusable nowadays when it takes but seconds to do a google search and get the real facts from Wikipedia etc.

Peter, I think Kevin has you " hoist with your own petard" but dont worry we knew what you meant!
Wingman30/09/2013 19:38:22
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Yes please CSBsmile p

Martin Harris - Moderator30/09/2013 19:42:04
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Posted by kc on 30/09/2013 19:14:59:

One can only assume that local news is run by youths who know very little and cannot even bother to read up the facts.

You're not wrong there - some years ago I was doing some work in the editorial office of a local newspaper and couldn't resist asking the young lady I was chatting to (up) about a story the paper had featured a couple of weeks beforehand about the local carnival where they'd interviewed a couple of "medieival knights".

Apparently (and unsurprisingly) jousting wasn't their "day" job and the reporter wrote that they actually worked for NASA as astronauts and repaired satellites...

As I asked about it, she started looking a little concerned and rather sheepishly said, "I wrote that feature, do you think they were winding me up?"

Ben B30/09/2013 20:01:30
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They're all as badly informed as each other. I regularly e-mail errors in to the BBC website. Not that they reply, they just quietly correct them!

e.g. a piece on Wellington bomber saying it had special "geodetic" design. Don't think it did! Or the health article talking about swelling of the legs due to a lack of "venus" return. Even just this Sunday- they proudly did a headline saying "all toddlers in Scotland getting the flu jab"- I pointed out that

a) it's not all toddlers it's 2-3 year olds and a small number of other children in study groups

b) the exact same scheme for 2-3 year olds is also happening in Wales and Scotland

c) it's not a flu jab this year for children it's a nasal spray

They really should do some kind of due diligence and check the facts they state.

Of course getting their facts from Wikepedia might be one of the reasons why these errors occur!

TheFlyingCrust30/09/2013 20:50:03
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And the ever increasing Americanisation of English. Our local rag reported an "Airplane Crash". It was an aeroplane and it was a forced landing. D'oh!

00130/09/2013 23:42:40
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The favourite aviation 'fact' is 'Bleriot -the first to fly over the English Channel', or, Lindbergh the first to fly over the Atlantic.

Or, mountain biking, a sport apparently invented by the Americans in the 1970's!

My dad was riding cross country on rough trails and footpaths through woods, heathland and over hills in the South of England before WW2. In the 1950's I joined him and great fun it was too. Admittedly the bikes weren't purpose built, just ride to work drop handlebar hacks.

Ian Jones01/10/2013 00:42:56
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Posted by kc on 30/09/2013 19:14:59:
How can we trust anything else they publish on the news if they get this fact wrong that any knowledgeable person knows?
One can only assume that local news is run by youths who know very little and cannot even bother to read up the facts.

Edited By kc on 30/09/2013 19:16:20

We cannot and should not trust anything from anybody of any age unless there is compelling corroborating evidence as to the accuracy of the “facts” stated.

Peter Miller01/10/2013 08:46:48
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The Wellington featured geodetic construction.

Kevin, I am hoping to quality for a job at Anglia Newsdisgust

The classic one from Anglia News was when they reported that someone who was having a wedding anniversary party in a Dakota (I think) hired a World War two jet fighter to film the event in the air.

It was actually a Yak 18.

Not a fighter, Not a jet and not WWII. Now three facts wrong out of three takes some beating!

Martin Harris - Moderator01/10/2013 10:37:59
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OK - I'm confused!

Ben, why don't you think the Wellington featured geodetic construction - surely it's the best known example of its use in aviation?

...and Crispy, other than semantics over balloonatics crossing the Channel first (or are you referring to Bleriot's viewpoint of it being La Manche) and Lindbergh's being the first solo crossing, why are the Bleriot/Lindbergh examples so wrong?

Or have I been guilty of reading too many papers and missed the real facts somewhere along the line?

Edited By Martin Harris on 01/10/2013 10:38:28

Alan Dorrell01/10/2013 11:23:50
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My wife likes quiz programmes on TV which I usually hear but rarely watch. I am frequently amazed at the lack of knowledge, historical, literary, etc., that contestants display. But then I could not answer questions about "celebraties", pop stars, soap opera topics and characters, footballers and any sports except cycling.

Alan.

Rich too01/10/2013 11:38:55
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On a technical programme it is unacceptable. Anyone catch the episode of Wheeler Dealers where a 911 owner offers advice to Mike, watch out for the goo in the oil, being a sure sign of water and blown head gasket - on an aircooled 911 - really??!!

Rich

Martin Harris - Moderator01/10/2013 11:57:17
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Posted by Chris P. Bacon on 30/09/2013 23:42:40:

Or, mountain biking, a sport apparently invented by the Americans in the 1970's!

My dad was riding cross country on rough trails and footpaths through woods, heathland and over hills in the South of England before WW2. In the 1950's I joined him and great fun it was too. Admittedly the bikes weren't purpose built, just ride to work drop handlebar hacks.

When we were youngsters in the sixties we took great delight in scouring the hedgerows and local dumps for bicycle bits and building what we called "trackers" for rough riding around the nearby lanes and tracks - the main feature being "cowhorn" handlebars.

Something that I fear the "Playstation Generation" will never appreciate.

Edited By Martin Harris on 01/10/2013 11:58:25

Gazza5801/10/2013 12:08:10
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Careful chaps, we are in danger here of sounding like grumpy old men....anyone know of a queue we can all go and stand in and have a good moan ?

Gazza

Rich too01/10/2013 12:09:56
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Haha! What do you mean? I am a grumpy old git, my wife keeps telling me!

Rich

kc01/10/2013 12:26:34
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Several more people here are "hoist with their own petard" ....
Porsche 911 are now watercooled and no longer air cooled!
It all goes to show dont trust anything without checking. It's so simple now with Wikipedia, Google etc. But dont trust anything from just one source.
We are grumpy because in our day one would get fired for an error, nowadays people in high paid jobs get away with serious errors and a dozen low paid staff are laid off to save the money to pay his /her salary!

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