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We want more UK ARF's !!

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Bladerunner30/01/2007 12:22:00
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I agree with the little one! There should be more UK manufactured ARF's so we don't need to buy Chinese!

You wanna build Wot?

David Ashby - Moderator30/01/2007 15:40:00
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Actually Chris Foss does offer a bespoke service for those who prefer their WOT's in ARTF format - probably a bit pricey though, UK wage rates are a bit higher than China!
Bladerunner30/01/2007 17:28:00
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Pity that, but we live in hope! I'm off to find some planks and glue.
Tim Mackey30/01/2007 19:03:00
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In my opinion, the Chris Foss kits, including the WOT4 have ALWAYS been ARTF.
I have assembled many of them over the 30 years I,ve been modelling, including an Acrowot which I did in just 4 nights after getting home from work ( long nights mind ) complete to full flyability stage from scratch. I built this particular one for a good friend,whilst i was suffering a severe dose of guilt, having accidentally shot his 2 week old one down the previous Sunday morning.
He couldn't believe his eyes when I presented it to him later that week, and even proclaimed it was better than his original.
I have known to take a lot longer than this on many of todays so-called ARTFs with their crappy foreign translated instructions, and ill fitting parts.
Mr Foss does make exceedingly good kits :-)
Bladerunner30/01/2007 20:49:00
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Exactly the point - we need more british ARF's. Timbo can help us put them together...!
john corcoran30/01/2007 22:26:00
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my acrowot has out lasted scores of chinese
takeaways,its battery failed one sunday
morning crashed too earth suffered no more than a broken prop and the wing holding
down plate popped out(20 minutes work)
Had this been a artf Im pretty sure I could have taken it home in my pockets.
Tim Mackey30/01/2007 23:40:00
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Be glad too - I charge 55 per hour :)
David Ashby - Moderator31/01/2007 07:22:00
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Tim, when you can build one in an hour then I'm your first customer :-)
Tim Mackey31/01/2007 10:39:00
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LOL. I am afraid that my quick building days have all but disappeared some time ago, along with my youthful good looks, 32" waist, and fat wallet to name but a few.....
Seriously though, I look back on it now, and do wonder what has happened. I honestly DO take longer faffing about assembling a little GWS foamy than I did an Acrowot or a Gangster etc. I have always been a bit of a meticulous person, so build quality is not the reason.
Of course having to wear 2 different types of spectacles for different range work doesn't help one bit !!
I am depressed now, 'cos I also used to have 20 /20 vision back in the old balsa days :(
Victor Saliba01/02/2007 17:42:00
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In my opinion the Wot 4 Mk III is the best sports model ever built. Chriss Foss designs are all excellent, easy to built, very light and out perform the rest. In my stable I have 43 models but I can guarantee you that my Wots are the best of them. I use Profilm for covering which is very durable and lasts many many years. No Chinese model can last that long. I just cannot live without my Wot 4's. My Suzuki personalised number plate is "Wot 4".
Bladerunner02/02/2007 10:24:00
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He he, clearly an enthusiast!

What do you reckon would be a good 4-stroke motor for a WOT 4?
Victor Saliba02/02/2007 13:26:00
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A good 4-stroke motor for a WOT 4 definitely a Saito 58. These are very good engines and very reliable.
Victor Saliba02/02/2007 13:32:00
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Apart from the Saito, if you can afford it, a YS 63s is excellent. I think its the best "60" size engine on the market. It throttles magnificent. You will not be disappointed.
Engine Doctor03/02/2007 11:36:00
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Hi all,I have to agree with David Ashby about the wot 4 .It is a rugged sport model ,able to stand up to a lot of abuse and has super flying qualities.I have over the years owned and built many of these models . However I do have to mention the quality of the veneer Chriss Foss uses on the wings of his kits. It appears to be similar to the obeechi used some time ago but now has large open grain which splits of its own volition. During the last year or so I have built a Extra Wot (a superb flying machine ) and a Wot 4 for a club mate . The veneer on the wings was horrible on both models and since the models have been covered the veneer has split causing lines to show through the covering.This has happened despite keeping the models in a stable environment and keeping the foam covers on until the wings were covered with pro film. Have any of you experienced the same ?
Victor Saliba03/02/2007 12:31:00
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Dear all. Regarding the veneer which has split causing lines through the covering,has also happened to me. I thought it's because here in Malta we have high temperatures but it seems common everywhere.I experienced, much worse, on my 3 Precedent Fun-Fly models, all powered by the excellent Irvine 36 ABC. Regarding David Smith, it's not how much Wots you have built but how often you fly them. I imagine that weather in Finland is severe while here in Malta we are blessed with good weather all year round. For example, in January 2007 we had an average temperature of 22 deg celsius and sea temperature of 18. We wear shorts and t-shirts to go flying. If your ASP/SC engines throttles better and are more powerful than YS engines, well you know better than me cos I never had ASP or SC 4-strokes. Let me suggest to you, keep the front of the model light if you want to knife edge up and down the runway. Mine are all powered by Thunder Tigre 46 Pro ABC which is light and gives 2:1 power to weight ratio. Hope you have lots of hours having fun flying.
Bladerunner03/02/2007 20:57:00
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Appreciate the input on engine choice. A saito 72 should do nicely then. Thanks for the feedback.
Engine Doctor04/02/2007 20:20:00
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Hi Bladerunner. Do look at YS 63 they are suberbly powerful and reliable motors.the YS is much lighter than a Saito and probably just as powerful . A lighter airframe will fly and behave much better. The last wot 4 I built was fitted with a YS 45 two stroke and a Weston throttle pipe , the owners choice. This set up is heavier than the Four stroke set up but I think the pipe will more than make up for that.
Happy landings
Phil
Bladerunner05/02/2007 08:52:00
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Thanks E.D , those engines do have an awesome reputation.
Roger Mathews07/02/2007 12:35:00
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So good to see so much interest in real models out there. You would not think it when ploughing thro the endless adds for ARTF's. I built a WOT4 last year with SC36A which I might now upgrade to a 46, great plane. Am now building an ACROWOT with SC52 FS. with great expectations.
Antony Wright07/02/2007 15:23:00
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do we have a list of UK companies both for ARTF and more traditional kits? It might be nice to see a list of our UK companies to see just what they have to offer us from trainer right up to what ever is available.

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