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Flair Fokker DVII

First WWI scale warbird build

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Harrier Mate17/12/2013 22:55:38
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Hi all.

New to the site and believe that Santa may be about to deliver a NIB Flair Fokker DVII kit. I know that others are already mid build on similar models but thought it best to start my own blog rather than cluttering theirs with all my trials and tribulations.

In preparation have just sent off for the Williams Bros Spandau guns and pair of palmer cord wheels. Just hope my assumption about Santa's generosity and his ability to read my Christmas List is accurate!

In the interim, guess I ought to research a colour scheme. It appears there are a few to choose from!!!!!!

jeff2wings25/12/2013 17:50:26
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So ,did Santa come through with the goods then ??? wink

Harrier Mate25/12/2013 18:08:33
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He certainly did! But not allowed to open until house visitors have gone. More frustrated than if it hadn't arrived!! Still the mulled wine and reviewing colour schemes is keeping me occupied until I can get started. Wonder when the guns will arrive??? Be like second Christmas. Excited now!!!

Harrier Mate26/12/2013 21:42:53
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Does anyone know if the Flair lozenge pattern solartex is still available? or similar. it seems almost all the schemes require the lozenge camouflage.

jeff2wings26/12/2013 22:29:28
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In a word ,no ,but it's simple enough to trace the lozenge pattern onto the 'tex an paint but there are other schemes available that don't have them ! wink

Harrier Mate26/12/2013 22:46:59
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Jeff,

Many thanks for the advice and prompt response. Will have a bit of practise on some old solar tex to judge the results. Probably need to start building before I worry too much about the finish but nice to plan ahead. Workbench could do with a tidy too!!

jeff2wings26/12/2013 22:54:39
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Have a look through my Flair Fokker D7 album might be of help ??

Harrier Mate26/12/2013 23:04:29
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Thanks, Just viewing it now. Lots of books out there to depict profiles. I am surprised there are any two alike!

Harrier Mate26/12/2013 23:05:24
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Your finished article looks very scale and the lozenge pattern looks incredible realistic.

Ernie27/12/2013 09:36:38
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Hi Harrier Mate, I think you can get very fine lozenge pattern 'tex from Arizona Model Aircrafters in the US of A..But be warned, they are not cheap

ernie

jeff2wings27/12/2013 12:12:30
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I would not waste your time or money with Arizona models ,there bad news , look on rc universe for a very long thread about this.Also remember that the only really accurate thing about the Flair Fokker is the name ! That's to say that it's very much "stand well off" scale so spending a few days painting the lozenges is a much more cost effective than buying from the USA at considerable cost ! .

Stevo27/12/2013 19:29:57
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Paint that lozenge boy!!! (Jeff - stand well loff scale - love it wink)

I made some templates from card and pencilled them onto white 'tex. I took the laptop to B&Q, and looked at the matchpots to get the colours right, masked off with professional masking tape and sponged it on. Two coats of fuel proofer over the top - job done!

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Harrier Mate27/12/2013 21:40:55
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Gentlemen,

The lunchbox has landed. Finally got to open it. Studying the build starts tomorrow.

Stevo, thank you for your tip on how to produce the lozenges. Will experiment on some scrap tex. Santa also brought me one of the Osprey books, Fokker DVII Aces Part 2. So lots of colour plates and info to drool over whilst the build starts. (Also as complete surprise a 1957 vintage Kielkraft magazine which focuses on WWI fighters.

First photos should appear below:

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Harrier Mate28/12/2013 18:24:35
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The research documents part 1- old and new. The model aircraft magazine with free flight plan dates from 1957.

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Harrier Mate30/12/2013 19:47:19
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Hmmm! Seems slightly odd to build the front fuselage and rear framework as separate elements and the joint them in the middle. Have always in the past build the whole side, then joined and pulled together at the back. Any gotchas to watch out for in doing it this way??

Harrier Mate04/01/2014 18:49:50
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I have been examining the plans and am trying to decide in what ways this is 'only' stand off scale. I know that the real aircraft has cambered undersurface to the wings. Other than that the outline appears fairly close, although I haven't been able to cross check the dimensions of the tailplane against scale outline.

Any hints welcome. I would like to build as near to scale as possible and intend detailing accordingly.

Thanks for any input.

Stevo04/01/2014 19:44:22
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One thing you could emulate is the spar and L.E capping...OK so the picture is not a DVII, but the idea is the same... Also work on that tail skid. You will have no alternative but to go for the Williams Brothers guns, I'm afraid!

 

You may want to have a look at my dummy engine which may give you ideas.

 

 

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Harrier Mate04/01/2014 23:23:33
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Thanks Steve,

Ordered the Williams Spandau x 2 last week from Omnimodels in USA. $28 including post and packing! thats about half UK price.

Your engine looks great. Found some great pictures on the Wingnut Wings site. The downloadable PDF instructions have lots of archive photos and diagrams (Mercedes and BMW variants).

Picked up a set of FLAIR palmer cord wheels too. Never detailed an open cockpit before. Should be fun with styrene tube etc. Again some great diagrams (albeit of 1/32 scale plastic model) on Wingnut site. I have a box full of small compression springs which could probably be put to use at top of dummy rocker arms too.

Pull/pull for rudder and elevator?

All this talk of detailing and i have yet to clear the building board to make a start on the airframe. Start new job on Mon so this will be the evening project once settled in.

Harrier Mate04/01/2014 23:27:49
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Stevo,

What size engine did you opt for? (Laser?). Seems to be a large range of sizes particularly for 4 strokes.

Stevo05/01/2014 11:04:39
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Yes thats a laser 70 in there. I did intend a saito 50 but seemed a little small to me.

No pull-pull...but i fitted two servos i the top wing and a rudder gyro for take off. Theres not a lot of room for cockpit detailing though.

Edited By Stevo on 05/01/2014 11:07:26

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