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Andy G.17/08/2014 13:44:23
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Finally got my Red Eagle finished! Thanks Ton, great design and generally a real pleasure to build. Now if you can all just pray to the weather gods for a chance to try it out!!!!..

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Andy..

Mike Stevens17/08/2014 16:21:47
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Andy G.17/08/2014 16:32:14
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We certainly are making them COLOURFUL!..

Andy..smile d

Steve Houghton 117/08/2014 21:37:19
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Posted by FWAL on 16/08/2014 15:48:16:
Posted by Steve Houghton 1 on 15/08/2014 08:03:52:

This is going to be my next, and first, "proper" build. Up until now I've only had facilities to assemble foamy models so I'm looking forward to it. This will be a lead up to building the Climaxx from Hollein, a 4 servo wing, 2.5m thermal glider ready for next springs thermal gliding season teeth 2

Steve

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Hi Steve

I'm glad you've found the type of kit you've been looking for. I'll definitely be bookmarking the Hollein website. There appear to be 3 types of Climaxx, which one are you considering? They all look very nice. You could be looking for a sailplane rather than soarer by this Thursday!

Fairwinds

Mk

Hi Mk

I'm going for the V tail with four flap wing . I'd prefer the Climaxx Evolution with the traditional cross tail but I can't see what the difference is between the two models, other than the tail configuration, that makes the Evolution worth an extra 60 euros.

But I'm going to build the Red Eagle first as I haven't built anything from balsa in over 30 years, which will hopefully stand me in good stead for the Climaxx.

Steve

Ton van Munsteren17/08/2014 23:10:27
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Jamie,

Yes its a great feeling that modellers put there trust in my design and build the RedEagle.

Andy,

The RedEagle looks great and I will pray for good weather, so you can enjoy your maiden and looking forward to the pics.

Mike,

Thats a beauty and enjoy the maiden looking forward to maiden pics.

Steve,

Woooo 30 years no building its good to have you back and even better that the RedEagle is the motivation for that. Enjoy the build and looking forward to build pics.

Cheers

Ton

Jamie sawyer18/08/2014 20:57:39
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Ok here is a picture of the left wing Ton.

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I've still got a bit to do yet but you get the idea. I've altered a couple of bits on the wing and sheeting leading and trailing edges for a little more strength now that there are flaps and aileron but more or less the same outcome.

Ton van Munsteren18/08/2014 21:51:38
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Looking very nice Jamie and looking forward to more pics and can't wait to hear about the maidenflight.

Not sure what my next glider will be, thinking of a slopesoarer, in any case it will be a little faster than the RedEagle.

Must admit that I also like the idea of going for an HLG/DLG

Cheers

Ton

Steve Houghton 118/08/2014 22:00:06
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Posted by Ton van Munsteren on 18/08/2014 21:51:38:

Looking very nice Jamie and looking forward to more pics and can't wait to hear about the maidenflight.

Not sure what my next glider will be, thinking of a slopesoarer, in any case it will be a little faster than the RedEagle.

Must admit that I also like the idea of going for an HLG/DLG

Cheers

Ton

Hey Ton. I've seen one or two balsa built up DLG models knocking about on various videos and they seem to go pretty well, even on launching. Even a half decent F3K DLG is out of my price range at the moment so I'd love to have a 1.6m built up model which uses the Drela aerofoil. But it would need to have ailerons so that they can be reflexed for launch, (to get that steep climb when mixed with elevator) and cambered for thermalling. wink 2

Steve

Steve Houghton 120/08/2014 13:50:45
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So I'm putting a shopping list together of all the bits and pieces I need in preparation to build the Red Eagle.

Now looking at motors and props, it's a bit of a mine field out there from what I can see. I'm a motor less flier normally so electric power is new to me.

Ton said he originally was going to HK for his motor, a 2217/16 1000kv, fitted with a 10 x 6 folding prop. So I found this motor on HK, a Turnigy unit, but when I found the prop/spinner combination, the shaft size of the spinner was 3mm and the shaft size of the motor was 3.175mm. I have found props and spinners elsewhere at 3.17mm shaft size, but would I want a 28mm, 30mm or 33mm spinner size?

So I was wondering what other set ups people were using? Did you buy from a one stop shop or a bit here and there. I'd prefer to buy from one place to keep delivery costs down.

Steve

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Jamie sawyer20/08/2014 15:27:53
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Hi Steve its a 40mm spinner that is shown on the plan. If you use a smaller one it will require a lot more sanding and an alteration to the nose all in all. If your set on one of the sizes you have mentioned I'd go for the 33mm one so it fits easier.

I'm not planning on electrifiying my one, purely slope but the option is there and simple if I decide to do it. I'm just shaping a balsa nose cone and gluing it in place just now.

Steve Houghton 120/08/2014 15:56:03
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Ah ok, thanks Jamie, I shall look for a 40mm then.

I'm wanting to get into flat field soaring so as well as using the hi start with my current model, and my next model build after Red Eagle, an electric model will be a welcome addition. I thought I could also use it on the slope on those marginal days that you get sometimes also.

Mike Stevens20/08/2014 19:39:13
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I think the original spinner is 36mm - I bought my bits here and there Overlander for the motor, speed control and spinner by looking around the internet.
Mike
Mike Stevens21/08/2014 08:11:00
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Just re-checked and it is indeed a 40mm spinner - apologies embarrassed though the article refers to the 36mm drawn circle to taper down to dont know hmmm, anyhoo, I have fitted a 36mm spinner as I carved my nose down to the circle diameter.

Jamie sawyer21/08/2014 08:26:15
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36mm is no big deal really. The nose would cope with a 2mm loss all the way round but a 5mm loss all the way round you would have lost a lot of material. This in my eyes would or could undermine the integrity of strength where the motor ply mount is glued in. That was why I said he would need to alter the nose dia. 40mm spinner would relieve any heart ache and extra work. Wonder what Ton used for curiosity.

Mike Stevens21/08/2014 08:49:08
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Posted by Jamie sawyer on 21/08/2014 08:26:15:

36mm is no big deal really. The nose would cope with a 2mm loss all the way round but a 5mm loss all the way round you would have lost a lot of material. This in my eyes would or could undermine the integrity of strength where the motor ply mount is glued in. That was why I said he would need to alter the nose dia. 40mm spinner would relieve any heart ache and extra work. Wonder what Ton used for curiosity.

I did query this earlier on as it seemed to remove too much from the front end. I have used a little filler on the nose to patch some breakthrough - all seems secure enough but non nosing in on landing. In truth possibly slightly larger than 36mm as I was struggling to get down to that size - time will tell. The motor wires are also very close inside so will have to fix them up out of the way of the spinning motor. As you say be interesting what Ton used on the original.

Mike

Jamie sawyer22/08/2014 20:42:32
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Heres my Fuselage just about finished. Some electrics to install etc.

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Grey and yellow goes ok smiley...

Wings about 70 % built then covering of them to ...

Ton van Munsteren22/08/2014 23:42:06
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Jamie,

The RedEagle is looking great can't wait to see the model completed.

Looking forward to seeing it in the air , Iam flying mine almost every evening and in between helping mate's learning to fly with there RedEagle.

Mike ,

I do hope there is enough material left to hold the motor in place.

Working on a RedEagle myself for a mate, its good that you don't need a lot of space.

The fuse only needs some more sanding at the nose the rest is done, made some new pics of the nose just to show you how it should like like according to plan.

The cirkel marked is to know where to sand to for the balsa block, the spinner it self is 40mm.

As you can see is that there will be not much balsa left when you sand the nose to 36mm.

Side view an ready to sand in shape

Top View

With the 40mm Spinner to make the marking for the final sanding.

The Spinner outerdiameter marked with a pen.

How the nose should finally look like

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Cheers

Ton

Jamie sawyer23/08/2014 08:26:13
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That pictures are great Ton, simplifies it greatly. thumbs up

You have built a lot of Red Eagles now lol. Do it with your eyes shut now wink

Once the wings are finished I'll post a picture of them and the whole model.

Got a hot date with someone on a slope in a few weeks so I'll need to get it finished .

Mike Stevens23/08/2014 08:46:30
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Follow now - think I will be ok though as it was a struggle to get it down to size so suspect it is nearer 38 mm in reality face 7. Shows the inadequacy of my covering skills on compound curves disgust20140823_083901.jpg

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Ton van Munsteren30/08/2014 22:00:09
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Is there an RedEagle flying already

Cheers

Ton

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