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Bistormer 60" (A Barnstormer with more ribs)

Barnstormer with more ribs

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Danny Fenton03/04/2014 17:16:00
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Hi CS unfortunately the radio Active spinners cannot accomodate bigger props, there is no backplate, its a skirt in front of the prop crying 2 I will vacform one, sigh...

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Danny

Concorde Speedbird03/04/2014 17:19:42
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You should still be able to, I've used them. The cutouts are always deliberately too small so you can cut it too suit the curvature of the propellor, so just get your prop and cut it till it is correct. It should be fine.

CS

Danny Fenton03/04/2014 17:27:36
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Sorry to disagree CS but the skirt is physically too shallow for a 14 x 7 prop, the blade is too wide crying 2

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Danny

john stones 103/04/2014 17:29:11
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A nice ali one would look good on it Danny

would go with cabane and u/c, go on treat yourselfwink

Danny Fenton03/04/2014 17:32:31
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Hi John the alloy ones tend to need an adaptor which makes them awkward, I will have a look and see what's about

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Danny

Danny Fenton05/04/2014 13:25:44
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The covering is going on, not sure whether the covering is a bit old it certainly came in slightly tatty packaging. Anway its taking a lot more heat to shrink than the instructions say. 130 max I am having to use 140 to get it to shrink.

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Not sure about the colour, Roisin thinks it look a bit like goose poo

Cheers

Danny

GrahamWh05/04/2014 13:43:51
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It looks like a good antique colour.

jolliffee05/04/2014 14:03:34
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I Like it!

Danny Fenton05/04/2014 15:50:42
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Thanks chaps the colour is growing on me. Unfortunately I have miscalculated the quantity required. Two rolls just to cover the wings was a shock. Wanted to do cream with black trim going to have to be a little less interesting and do cream with black fus. Hope Terry and Steve won't be too upset
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Danny
Danny Fenton06/04/2014 21:48:01
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Seems to have taken forever to film one wing, okay it did have ailerons and I was hinging them at the same time using the film. Still think I could have done it quicker in tissue and dope disgust

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Moved on to the fus, and covering the upper cowl was probably the most challenging filming I have ever done, its a lovely curved shape but crikey it was hard work to film!

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Whose idea was it to use black, remind me never to be so daft in the future!

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Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 06/04/2014 22:04:13

john stones 106/04/2014 21:57:41
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Yep, Black looks classy but shows every little blemish

Beautiful job Danny, hinging looks really good yes

Colin Leighfield06/04/2014 23:22:39
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You've done a good job there Danny,even though black is hard to do neatly, that looks good. I'm currently into black but as my standard is stand-off at a quarter-mile plus or minus 25%, it's no problem!

Nigel Day07/04/2014 08:22:19
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Lovely work Danny.

So what's the secret to getting the cowl looking so nice - aside from lots of time and swearing of course?

Danny Fenton07/04/2014 10:12:33
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Thanks guys, I am not as comfortable with the polyester film coverings as I am with say Solartex. I seem to be able to cope, but I don't like it. I think the answer to getting it right Nigel is practice. Dave Platt says that no amount of lying on your belly waving your arms about on the living room floor will teach you to swim, you need to get in the water! Filming is the same. I did a demo once and solarfilmed my glasses case, with patience and sometimes a fair bit of pull it can be made to go around some quite impressive curves. You will notice on this cowl it is lined with 64th ply, Iy you were to pull with the amount of force that I used against the balsa edges they would not of survived.

Again I am no expert and there are modellers far better at using the stuff than me, Mr Hooper for one! But I find that I apply some tension, heat the film, apply more tension and while the film is still hot stretch it down over the wood. Stretching it after it is stuck down is not easy.

Swearing doesn't help Nigel, but the iron is flaming hot, so swearing does occur embarrassed

Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton07/04/2014 23:22:11
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Well thats just about it, I have a closed loop wire to run to the rudder but the horns are all fitted so wont take long and a spinner backplate to turn on the lathe, then its the cells esc etc and check the C of G. Hopefully the weather will play ball and we can get the maiden out of the way.

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I know its a bit plain but I must confess I am flagging a bit. I want to get back to my Apache smile p

Cheers

Danny

john stones 107/04/2014 23:25:50
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That looks good Dannyyes

Bit plain works with some models, I like it , looks elegantsmiley

Danny Fenton07/04/2014 23:34:54
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Thanks John I might spice it up a bit with some stripes or something if it goes well. But as you say plain is unusual in this day of the extremely colourful artf wink 2

Just out of interest I stuck the 6s A123 pack in and she balances right on the money, about an inch behind forward cabane. Still got to add a prop and the vacformed spinner, and a couple of feet of nylon coated steel trace, but I doubt they will alter things much.

Cheers

Danny

Nigel Day08/04/2014 09:21:05
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Still looks lovely Danny.

I can tell that you don't care much for the electrical, servo and linkage gubbins as you've given little detail. smiley

Now I'll have to use my poor little brain instead of simply copying/borrowing/stealing your techniques and ideas.

Joking aside, that's a fun part of the job - working out how that sort of stuff fits together and how to implement it in a way that suits me and my current level of abilities. There's plenty of info on this part elsewhere so it shouldn't be too difficult.

I'll stop by in your Apache blog later as that looks a great build.

I hope the maiden flight goes well and many thanks for a really detailed and helpful account of the build. I've learnt a lot. yesyes

Nigel

Redex08/04/2014 09:23:50
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Hi Danny, on the subject of the 6S A123 pack, was it something you purchased as a pack or have you constructed the 6S out of individual cells.

Masher08/04/2014 09:25:48
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Looks excellent!

Just shows how important it is to get the preparation right being rewarded with such a smooth clean result - mind you, a shed load of skill and experience helps!

Well done!

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