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David Ashby - Moderator10/04/2014 10:04:38
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.......it might be quicker to list the rules/safety considerations it doesn't break. Aside from looking supremely dangerous for the young lady concerned who really should have listened to better advice.

 

Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 10/04/2014 10:06:17

Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 10/04/2014 10:11:34

Martyn K10/04/2014 10:27:14
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Stupid I agree... but impressive if it's genuine..

Martyn

Levanter10/04/2014 10:35:38
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David. Yes it looks more dangerous than running in front of bulls and being attached by fireworks. Good old Spain.

On a serious note I noticed in the credits Centro RC Levante. For the record this has nothing to do with my pseudonym here on the forum. Levanter3 It is a radio control shop in Alicante and I live in Mallorca. These are not Spanish people however.

Further down the credits I see that lots of magazines are involved as media partners.

In all forms of sport, technology, whatever. If people can do it they will do it. Having said that I am absolutely not condoning it.

At the end they indicated the risks were all thoroughly assessed and managed. I couldn't disagree more. Too high, over concrete, directly under heavy machines, exposed rotors, built up area ................... as you say how long is one list and how short is the other?

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator10/04/2014 10:37:51
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I'm surprised they could get the weight of those boots off the ground!

BEB

PS er,...flying over a built up area, dropping a live animal from a model? How about cruelity to a dumb animal? Could you get them on "not having all parts of the model securely fixed"?

Bearair10/04/2014 10:38:23
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No idea, not sure what the regulations are in Spain.

Im guessing none as it explains quite clearly that it was a stunt carried out by professional stuntmen and presumably women. Also it seems to have been supported, by quite a few magazines Im guessing but like RCM&E they would not associate themselves with an illegal act.

Bearair10/04/2014 10:42:26
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At 3.07 it states that it was officially authorized and safety measures were taken even if not apparent.

So NONE is the answer.

john stones 110/04/2014 10:45:05
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Apart from her handbag the models part were all securely fixed cheeky

Peter Jenkins10/04/2014 10:45:59
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Why am I not entirely surprised that she kept hold of her handbag for this......stunt?

john melia 110/04/2014 10:48:10
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If it was carried out by stunt persons as seems , then its just like stunts in a movie , dangerous but controlled , so I'd say it breaks no rules .

And it is quite impressive , the stunt I mean , yeah ok , I meant the girl really embarrassed

Levanter10/04/2014 10:56:07
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This would be breaking rules in Spain I am sure. There is a Federation but not anything like as active as the BMFA. It looked like the stunt was on private ground so it would be difficult to police. I think it would raise an alert however given the amazing lifting power assuming, as Martyn says, it was not a hoax.

I have visited flying clubs here and I have found sensible safety awareness. It would be great however if the BMFA could have an overseas or European membership category. I am sure there would be no legal barriers anymore and I am fairly confident that us ex-pats would understand if the subscription was a bit higher as clearly admin and perhaps insurance costs would be more.

Sorry. going off topic so maybe I should start another thread.

Bearair10/04/2014 11:23:09
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Posted by Levanter3 on 10/04/2014 10:35:38:

David. Yes it looks more dangerous than running in front of bulls and being attached by fireworks. Good old Spain.

On a serious note I noticed in the credits Centro RC Levante. For the record this has nothing to do with my pseudonym here on the forum. Levanter3 It is a radio control shop in Alicante and I live in Mallorca. These are not Spanish people however.

Further down the credits I see that lots of magazines are involved as media partners.

In all forms of sport, technology, whatever. If people can do it they will do it. Having said that I am absolutely not condoning it.

At the end they indicated the risks were all thoroughly assessed and managed. I couldn't disagree more. Too high, over concrete, directly under heavy machines, exposed rotors, built up area ................... as you say how long is one list and how short is the other?

Are you a professionally trained stuntmen then? You seem to think you know better than the ones on this stunt, just wondering why?

Levanter10/04/2014 11:32:23
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The Titanic was fully authorised. Evel Kneivel ended up having more metal in him than me. I only just started my list and thank goodness we don't have to be professionally trained to have an opinion Bearair.

Bearair10/04/2014 11:44:15
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Posted by Levanter3 on 10/04/2014 11:32:23:

The Titanic was fully authorised. Evel Kneivel ended up having more metal in him than me. I only just started my list and thank goodness we don't have to be professionally trained to have an opinion Bearair.

Agreed opinion's are free to everyone just trying to establish if you had experience of this sort of stunt and possibly a more valued opinion.

I see this as a professional stunt carried out and filmed such that it looks more dangerous and possibly impressive than it is. If it promotes the hobby in a way that might appeal to the younger generation then i think great.

Bob Cotsford10/04/2014 11:45:54
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biggest risk appeared to be landing on a palm tree in a miniskirt, bet that made her eyes water1

Simon B10/04/2014 11:47:35
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The initial question David posed was not how dangerous it was, but how many rules it broke. It seems the answer, as has been said before, is none.

Bearair10/04/2014 11:50:15
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Posted by Bob Cotsford on 10/04/2014 11:45:54:

biggest risk appeared to be landing on a palm tree in a miniskirt, bet that made her eyes water1

Having never landed on a palm tree in a mini skirt I can only imagine!!!.

Got to go now off to Spain with some soothing lotion....................

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator10/04/2014 12:10:29
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Chaps - lighten up eh! This was posted a bit tongue in cheek.

I for one will have little interest in a bad tempered, pedantic, pointless tennis match of petty point scoring,

(Phew! That's easy for you to say!)

BEB

malcolm woodcock 110/04/2014 12:14:24
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Dangerous, those boots are so last decade.

leccyflyer10/04/2014 12:26:42
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Had she fallen onto the concrete from 12-15' in the air , or had one of the helicopters suffered an equipment failure, then wearing those boots, the likelihood is that they would have been trying to put together the tiny pieces of shattered ankles for quite some time.

Simon B10/04/2014 12:29:48
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I wasn't commenting on your clearly tongue in cheek comment, BEB

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