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Take a peek inside Seagull's ARTF factory

Take a peek inside Seagull's ARTF factory

there are lots of planes and people

David Ashby - Moderator22/07/2014 09:22:12
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I notice that Seagull have a link from their website to a photo tour of their facility and, naturally, it's quite interesting.

Here's the link

and here's another.

I'm sure they won't mind me sharing one with you here.....

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Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 24/10/2014 06:38:52

cymaz22/07/2014 18:29:01
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Here is a link to CMPro factory photos

cymaz22/07/2014 18:48:15
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Back before I was born, model making was done like this...surprise

Martin McIntosh13/08/2014 21:15:12
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That looks quite different from my perception of a Chinese sweat shop. Videos of the glass fibre cowls manufacture and iron on covering would be great to see.

Edited By Pete B - Moderator on 13/08/2014 23:05:34

Gary Manuel13/08/2014 21:46:33
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I can remember admiring the huge models in Travel Agent windows when I was a lad.

This video brings it all back smiley

Erfolg13/08/2014 22:41:49
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will have to watch the slide show again, I really do not know what to think.

Was all that going on at the same time in the factory?

How many models were done in a batch run, they seem enormous batches.

I really do not know what to think, I really..........................

Pete B - Moderator13/08/2014 23:07:28
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In case anyone's wondering, the misplaced post has found a home and the other thread binned....wink 2

Pete

Erfolg19/08/2014 21:51:44
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I cannot but notice that there does not seem to be any jigs used in the assembly of fuselages. I assume that symmetries is obtained by accurate and well thought out tabs and slots. Not that i am criticising, as the accuracy attained by these manufacturers seem to surpass anything i can achieve, with the aid of a jig.

With the shear volume of all the bits and pieces stacked, it is amazing that there is any accuracy in knowing how many bits have been made.

So much seems to be undertaken, at simple, empty tables, it does make me wonder, why I am so cluttered, is it getting in the way? Again so many seem happy to sit on their haunches, could I make models sat at my garden table, to advantage?

One thing really stands out, models are not being made in sweat shops, the premises are light, apparently airy, well lit, such a contrast with many manufacturing units in the UK.

Paul Marsh19/08/2014 21:56:15
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I find that all of any ARTF models just fly off the board. Recently, I flew the PT19 Fairchild, a Seagull kit. It just took off and seemed to have flown before - so sorted was it. Even on the first circuit, started throwing it about a bit, and when I landed, all the trims were still in the center.

cymaz19/08/2014 22:00:58
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I can only assume alot of time and effort is done on cad.

Alan Smith 319/08/2014 22:26:27
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My trainer was a Seagull Cessna, and my go to plane now is the Seagull Yak 54 with 20cc DLE petrol power.

I've had a few Seagull ARTF's and liked them all.

Shaunie19/08/2014 22:49:58
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I have to say I have a Seagull Edge 540 68 inch 60-90 size. It's beautifully made but I just can't get it to fly any sense. It's got an RCV91 up front which is a bit light on power. Determined to get a handle on it I gave it a go at the weekend, couldn't stop the left swing at take off and tore the undercarriage out on the long grass ( I do fly mainly taildraggers). I nearly stomped on it!

I so want to like it but it just doesn't fly right somehow. When I get the gear fixed I'll let someone else up the club try it.

Shaunie.

Andrew Price 219/08/2014 23:56:45
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Those pigs won't fly!!!

cymaz24/10/2014 05:54:07
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Bringing this thread up to date, I found this

David Ashby - Moderator24/10/2014 06:08:07
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Thanks Peter, very interesting, I think I spotted a new model or two.

Andrew Price 224/10/2014 12:02:24
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Right guys. Who's turn is it to have a chair today?

Mind you, the works canteen looks great (pic 69)

Bet they all build quicker than Danny with his Chipmunk!!

Mr.B.24/10/2014 12:27:00
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Photo 33! No need for a company barber then

Ben B25/10/2014 15:26:15
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What's with all the surgical face masks in the original slideshow? If you think about the dangers of working in such a factory you've got microscopic glassfibre dust, 2 pack paint spray, CA fumes, balsa dust, the list goes on. A surgical mask is going to do nothing against those other than give false sense of security. They're good for stopping someone coughing and breathing microbes over the inside of a patient but the other way round? Not much cop....

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Posted by cymaz on 22/07/2014 18:48:15:

 

 

Back before I was born, model making was done like this...surprise

Seem to remember one of those travel agent's models turning up on the Antiques Roadshow recently, very collectable and quite valuable now.

The slide shows are fascinating. I'm amazed at how on the one hand,modern  CNC gear is used alongside machinery that looks to be straight from the local tip!. All appears very haphazard, workers using the floor, sitting on ancient chairs etc. I'm no expert, but how do they produce the quantities that they do with no real sign of efficient division of labour? One has to admire their tenacity to produce their wares in such basic conditions.

How successful would a similar business in the UK be, given a good dose of thought given to production methods - maybe on a smaller scale with a reduced range but high production? There was a recent TV programme following the fortunes of a soft furnishings firm that had taken a lot of its manufacturing back from China to here in the Midlands, as the costs were much the same and quality could be more easily assured . Could a similar thing happen with ARTFs?

Edited By Cuban8 on 25/10/2014 18:07:54

cymaz25/10/2014 18:21:34
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Posted by Cuban8 on 25/10/2014 17:28:25:
Posted by cymaz on 22/07/2014 18:48:15:

Back before I was born, model making was done like this...surprise

How successful would a similar business in the UK be, given a good dose of thought given to production methods - maybe on a smaller scale with a reduced range but high production? There was a recent TV programme following the fortunes of a soft furnishings firm that had taken a lot of its manufacturing back from China to here in the Midlands, as the costs were much the same and quality could be more easily assured . Could a similar thing happen with ARTFs?

Edited By Cuban8 on 25/10/2014 18:07:54

I do hope so. Parts maybe easier to get

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