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2015 Mass Build - Nominations Chat Thread

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Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator18/09/2014 10:35:06
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Ok Boys and girls - somewhere we can chew the fat over the various nominations!

BEB

reg shaw18/09/2014 14:08:24
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My selfish mass build list would be from 3 categories.

1, A traditional vintage type model, simple and quick enough to build. Nice to look at and fly on those evenings we WILL get at Greenacres

2, An 1/8th scale 1930's civilian, leccy powered, say Tiger, Gipsy Moth at al. This is as its been on my wish list for as long as I've been flying my HP42. The reason being to park it up alongside to show just how huge the full size HP42 was. eg, an 1/8 scale Tiger is about 4ft span, the HP in the same scale is about 17ft. We could even do the mass flying slot and have all of em up at once, HP included, just so long as Mr Hooper doesn't let me nearly snare his model my struts again!! Perhaps I could build something to suit from the RCME free plan range, any suggestions?

3. Something just plain stupid! Either in design, construction, flying or whatever!! This needs to be cheap and simple as it is just to join in!

Ian.

David Davis18/09/2014 17:50:43
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Either of Peter Russell's Deltas, the 363 or the smaller 362. Cheap and simple to build, no fuselage or tailplane in the conventional sense, they don't take up much space in the car either. Easy to fly, if you can manage an aileron trainer, you should be alright with one of these. Capable of slow and high-speed flight, convertible to electric power, aerobatic too!

What's not to like?

john stones 118/09/2014 17:52:52
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I picked Peter Millers Dragon Dancer 2 here's why

It's a free plan, it's cheap to build and fly, not complicated, but if you wish it has scope to do your own thing...open cockpit, round the wing and tail feathers off. Its a model that will handle a bit of wind and looks to be a well mannered flyer.

John

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Jamie sawyer18/09/2014 18:25:13
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I would like to say, everyone did a scratch build of there own design but that would never work lol.......If there was a list of certain sizes of wood and sq stock that all entry's adhered to and then unleash your imagination lol but that would never help the new comers and beginners now would it !!!

Maybe that's a good idea for some other time....it could be really good fun and quite interesting to see what other peoples creations were at the end.....

I like the idea of a vintage thrown in to the mass build....I don't have any certain air frames at this moment but I will look when I get chance....I like the Ben Buckle range and find myself going back and looking all the time smile p

I'd quite like to see what everyone thinks of my idea above to....but another thread for that is the way to go...

Jamie

TheFlyingCrust18/09/2014 18:36:07
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How about Tim Hoopers Clean Sweep? Has anyone built one IC powered? I'd like to build one anyway, probably the 48. But if IC powered I'd prefer this option. Also available in 3 sizes.

Ian

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator18/09/2014 20:31:10
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TFC - if you want to actually nominate Clean Sweep you need to add it to nominations thread here Nominations there,...chat here. smile

BEB

Edited By Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 18/09/2014 20:31:32

john stones 118/09/2014 20:41:57
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I may be wrong Jamie but I think vintage is meant in the old stuff definition, rather than the Ben Buckle model type.

John

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator18/09/2014 21:19:03
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We did "old designs" (which I think we defined as pre 1970) for the second Mass Build in 2012.

BEB

TheFlyingCrust18/09/2014 23:32:56
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Point made, BeB. Sorry. Was just thinking aloud. Haven't made my mind up yet.

Ian

David Davis19/09/2014 07:36:03
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This is what Peter Russell's 363 looks like,

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and as regards "old designs," while many of us built them in 2012, the weekend was washed out by a monsoon! Mind you I don't know how many would be up for building a second vintage model. I already have three of them plus the Telemaster so would prefer something a little less traditional.

Danny Fenton19/09/2014 09:04:53
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I would gladly do another vintage model, the Mamselle was a real joy to build, and any excuse to do another slightly larger one. It was a real shame we didn't get them up together. Chris B, Steve B and myself all got our 3 vintage models with diesels started and aloft in a 30 second slot, this year, great fun. Who says diesels are trouble to start

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Piers Bowlan19/09/2014 09:07:21
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I think there should be ultimately two model design choices for the mass build this year as one design is unlikely to be universally popular with new builders as well as the more experienced builders/flyers. So perhaps a 'floater class' eg Red Eagle, Jermima, or Derek Woodwards VSP. What these designs have in common is lots of wing area (low wing loading) a simple build coupled with a relaxing flying style.

The second class I suggest would be fast and aerobatic so a little more demanding to fly and build but still a relative quick build eg TN DH Mosquito 46 or Peter Miller's Alley Cat/Dragon Dancer 2/Miss Lizzy

Piers Bowlan19/09/2014 09:14:14
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The Mamselle would get my vote in a 'Floater class' Danny, it has been on my 'build list' for a long time. I have an MP Jet Super Atom diesel to go in it too.

Lindsay Todd19/09/2014 11:02:53
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I know its only been circa 48hrs but I am actually quite surprised how relatively few nominations have been made yet. I suggested the humble Piper Cub although not a particular version, my thinking being that here is a beloved aeroplane that suits a wide range of abilities and fairly simple in its layout and build. It also offer the opportunity for those not partaking in the build to perhaps share a moment in the sky if not specifically at the time of a mass build flight but at least subsequently. That being said I rather like the Mamselle too now I have seen it, and that I guess is another issue, actualy finding and choosing a model. The rcme plans seem to be weel hidden on the site so perhaps a link to both these and traplet would be useful.

john stones 119/09/2014 22:12:13
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I put a link to the plan on, but here's a bit of info, Dragon Dancer 2 was a free plan in the December 2012 RCME.

Wingspan 45 inch a/u/w just shy of 4lb, power 32 i.c or electric equivalent. A simple sheet build fuzz and tail feathers, or you could do a built up rear end to save a bit of weight, constant chord wing with a semi symmetrical wing section. It looks a nice fun model that will not be a handful, and it won't break the bank to build or fly. Thinking something like this to power it.

John

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kevin b19/09/2014 22:33:53
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I have added my suggestions to the list.

Beretta. A foam built EDF, which looks very attractive. A straight forward build (I've not built in foam yet) and power trains are now reasonably priced for this type of model. Unfortunately not suited to the novice flier though, I think.

Bristol Scout D. Another straight forward build suitable for the novice builder, who would like a scale biplane in his fleet. Wouldn't take a lot of conversion to electric.

Whitman Tailwind. Another easy build for the novice, but would be probably a better model for the novice flier (like me) to build.

As I said in my post. These aren't my particular favourites, But I thought they may suit the mass build and I would be happy to attempt any of them. There are others, which I would like to nominate, but the availabilty of plans and hardware have to be considered as well. I'm sure if enough people want cut parts, then one of the specialist companies would oblige at reasonable cost, for my choices.

Kevinb smiley

john stones 119/09/2014 22:52:36
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You got a link to plan for Tailwind Kevin or any info ?

John

Had a look at it, it's got a weird rudder or I had a bad picturesmiley

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Gary Manuel19/09/2014 23:01:59
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Lack of nominations does not necessarily mean lack of interest.

The people that the mass build is aimed at will not necessarily know what models to nominate. This is why the model choice is so important. It needs to be something with mass appeal. This is why I nominated the WOT4.

I'm not sure whether the mass build concept is promoted within the RCM&E magazine. If not, maybe it should be, as a way of getting people interested in the best parts of the hobby - building, flying and meeting people.

John Timmis20/09/2014 17:15:28
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Workmaster by Ron Moulton. This was my first ever rc model back in about 1965 I think. Its' a semi scale Auster. Mine flew superbly on single channel with a PAW 1.5 diesel. Would make a great trainer with ailerons, enlarge to 60" & electric power. Simple build with good appearance.

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